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What do you hope to come away with here? do you see this taking a longtime step by step? do you expect resolution? >> well, we are extremely blessed that we were offered assistance by marcella burke from the law firm representing us. they #r* -- they are helping us -- basically what we want to do, this therapy is covered under the law. tri-care is mistaken and dod is mistaken. it is you ever cked under the law and we are trying to clarify that. we are getting a lot of support from congressional help to clarify that. it is covered. our goal is we want this to be available for all of the childre...

The horse is just a tool that we see results and helps caitlin. the goal is to keep her scoliosis under control so he shea wouldn't be life altering. she is not like a typical child. several orthopedist surgeons said it would be life altering and we don't want to go down that road. >> what is the reason being given over and over for denying you the coverage? >> tri-care told us from the beginning that it started being denied because they said it is hippo-therapy. we don't cover hippo-therapy. it is nonproven. we were never billing for hippo-therapy -- >> for those who don't know what that is c...

Therapists use and the horse is merely a tool. the therapists are doing exactly what they would do in a clinic with another type of tool. they are just using horse as a tool. it is a dynamic surface to put the patient on to reach their goals. >> and you have documented this with -- to the military, and you said that the doctors say and the therapists say this is making a difference in your child's life? >> oh yes. our pediatric neurologist from cook children's at forth worth, the -- fort worth, the treating physical therapist testified at our hearing, which we won. the government judge that tr...

President george washington had a famous quote that said future generations will serve the service to the country how well we treat her veterans and this is an example of exactly that. when you're between that 15 to 20 year point if you terminate your service you get a little less pension and when you get to 20 year point, you're considered retired. i was 22 years, and 55% pension, the thing is when you look at tri care benefits that this gentleman should have, we should not have an administration that should be taking away those benefits and this is the man who took away the world's number on...

But his family is not covered. >> steve: he thought -- when he left the military, he asked about health care and he was never told he had an opportunity to have it four or five years. that's where a pension, you need 20 years to get a pension. but his body was simply worn out. he had been in it for 16 years and he couldn't take it anymore. >> gretchen: so here is a quote on the life after the osama bin laden raid from that navy seal. i left seals on friday. my health care for me and my family stopped at midnight friday night. i asked if there was some transition from my tri care to blue cross,...