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Mcconnell had said. i happen to think that that has further confused the process. >> so margaret, we always assumed that murkowski might be a potential republican that could break away from the president and senate leadership on all of this. what can we make of her comments here? >> i think this is lisa murkowski sending up a signal to mitch mcconnell, not that she's -- would vote to convict president trump in the impeachment case, but that she thinks kind of a reset, at least of the kind of order of this, of the optics of this and of the way senators speak about whether they've already made u...

The same time -- >> they can how many bills are sitting in the senate graveyard? >> maybe it does not count for doing the good work of the nation. >> some of those have the legitimate paths forward through the senate but as kennedy pointed out, some of them were written. we don't have that compromise. i haven't read all 300 plus and i don't think you have either. so kennedy is talking about something you here, criticism from the white house about not having any dedicated war room. they needed it on going forward with those members in the senate that will be caught up on the senate trial portio...

D.c. are democrats or republicans feeling a little more concerned right now? >> i think republicans are obviously concerned, because this is a two-part piece here. one is that the president has to survive the impeachment process both in the house where it looks like he's likely to be impeached and then in the senate, where it's more likely he will survive the trial portion and not be removed from office. then again, in the election. so it's really a two-test issue there. democrats have to worry, of course, about a backlash. i think what you saw in the house vote a few weeks ago where they deci...

Out of other's mouths and wants to talk himself. agreeing to testify whether it actually happens is probably slim chances of that happening against the recommendation of his lawyers. he wants to do his own talking and why he does social media. he is his own mouthpiece and perhaps why he doesn't want others to testify and say something that could kick back. >> julie, sometimes people use the impeachment inquiry as an anology to a criminal proceeding where we're doing the investigation and we're inching toward the decision whether or not to indict. you get to the trial portion, the person who is...

Possibility. >> the state chair said there might be softness in the suburbs in western minnesota but she thinks the rest of the state is lined up to win it. >> i think in the age of trump you shouldn't count anything out. maybe new york and california. >> sandra: i'll give you those. >> it is important to think about the kind of argumentation that will be made at these rallies. it is the greatest hits but also dangerous the level of misinformation. what mark meadows is saying it's a trial. see not allowed to see his accusers. impeachment inquiry is not the trial portion. that's what the senate...