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>> yes. there's no question about that. from my perspective, when we're dealing with in particular murders, my position is that they're all sort of screwed up. >> yeah. >> because the normal person doesn't react that way. i mean, we have to believe that, right? >> right. >> the normal person does not react that way. so at some level anytime somebody -- one person commits a murder, there's something that's -- that's loose in their head. there has to be. >> butch ford may know more than most about the parameters of human nature. he helped raise eight younger siblings while growing up in south ce...

All sort of screwed up-- yeah. --because a normal person doesn't react that way. i mean, we have to believe that right? keith morrison: right. the normal person does not react that way. so, at some level, anytime somebody-- one person commits a murder, there's something that's loose in their head. keith morrison: yeah. there has to be. keith morrison: which ford more than most about the parameters of human nature. he helped raise eight younger siblings while growing up in south central la, worked his own way through law school. and now as a prosecutor, seeks out sound advice from someone who h...

Murderers, my position is that they're all sort of screwed up-- yeah. --because a normal person doesn't react that way. i mean, we have to believe that right? keith morrison: right. the normal person does not react that way. so, at some level, anytime somebody-- one person commits a murder, there's something that's loose in their head. keith morrison: yeah. there has to be. keith morrison: which ford more than most about the parameters of human nature. he helped raise eight younger siblings while growing up in south central la, worked his own way through law school. and now as a prosecutor, se...

React that way. so at some level anytime somebody -- one person commits a murder, there's something that's -- that's loose in their head. there has to be. >> reporter: butch ford may know more than most about the parameters of human nature. he helped raise eight younger siblings while growing up in south central l.a., worked his own way though law school. and now as a prosecutor seeks out sound advice from someone who has seen it all -- his own grandmother. >> i have dinner every wednesday at my grandmother's house. >> reporter: the first female african-american judge appointed in alameda coun...

So, at some level, anytime somebody-- one person commits a murder, there's something that's loose in their head. keith morrison: yeah. there has to be. keith morrison: which ford more than most about the parameters of human nature. he helped raise eight younger siblings while growing up in south central la, worked his own way through law school. and now as a prosecutor, seeks out sound advice from someone who has seen it all-- his own grandmother. i have dinner every wednesday at my grandmother's house. keith morrison: the first female african american judge appointed in alameda county. i've n...