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>> let me ask you about that. the way i see this is the senates under obligation to protect the senate and uphold the institution and the constitution. if you have another body who's conducting itself in an anticonstitutional way, why would you then entertainment, doesn't not give it, is it not then the mob or the rogue behavior in the house that leaches into the united states senate, and isn't the senate in its role under our constitution as it was debated at the constitutional convention, madison was worried about house. it was to protect us from the house so they have an elaborate trial sys...

>> let me ask you about that. the way i see this is the senates under obligation to protect the senate and uphold the institution and the constitution. if you have another body who's conducting itself in an anticonstitutional way, why would you then entertainment, doesn't not give it, is it not then the mob or the rogue behavior in the house that leaches into the united states senate, and isn't the senate in its role under our constitution as it was debated at the constitutional convention, madison was worried about house. it was to protect us from the house so they have an elaborate trial sys...

Us from people rebelling in the sense of, you know, having disagreements to his point about policy, fighting with one other about the right direction for the country, what our foreign policy should be. it was, though, about saying, i will take all the power that i have and i will deploy it all to my own benefit against the interests of the country. >> yeah. and that's why now he stands awaiting a trial. >> that's right. >> which is something he has been running from his whole life. both of you stay with me. speaking of trials, i want to bring in another former u.s. attorney. good evening to yo...

President has very little understanding of what it means to be in the military to fight ethically or to be governed by a uniform set of rules and practices. joining me for his take, rear admiral kirby during the obama administration. admiral, great to have you with us. it this is a scathing rebuke of the a president on top of a scathing rebuke of the president on top of another scathing rebuke on the president. this puts it in bigger terms, in really national security terms. what do you make of it? >> he's certainly not going quietly. he's trying i think in this op-ed to frame it in a larger...

Helped iranians circumvent sanctions. people held in the u.s. and maybe outside of the u.s. on behalf of u.s. government. >> we can't administer an oath but everything you know as an employer jason was and is a journalist. there is no doing favors for anybody, passing secrets, nothing. >> we have seen no evidence of that. we believe that is absolutely not the case. as a matter of fact now that it has been 445 days the iranians have produced no evidence publically that he has done anything wrong. >> what constitutes their trial system? what basis do they have holding the guy? >> they are claimi...