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Anything big, we've got to be careful there, and the unfair deals. is gingrich the right messenger for that? there's nobody you look in this field that says, oh, they could be the conservative populist, and that could work in an economically distressed place like south carolina and florida, but i don't see that message -- >> let's always remember, david, though, newt gingrich has had a 30-year brand, strong brand in the republican party. you can't go on to a conservative website -- you couldn't over the past decade without going on and seeing across the top a banner for newt.org. he's going to...

System off of the backs of our entrepreneur and businesses. and the issue is can congress do it? i don't think you can have tax reform with charlie rangel and harry reid . charlie rangel it is like a chesire cat they like the jigger with the tax code. >> that's the nice thing you don't have to worry about that. it is permanent and those who fear about jiggering with the code. it is simple. do everything and everyone can see it. you can make changes in the code. >> i am willing to bet, rick doesn't think it is permanent. congress likes to fiddle with things and never ep fingers still. >> that's...

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