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Credibility because he killed 20 people and cut a good deal with the federal government in the '90s serving 12 years for 20 murders. what is your sense of the defense strategy? >> i think the defense was very effective today. he was aggressive in going after john and got him to admit yes whitey was the triggerman in one slaying that john was the guy shooting people between the eyes and in the back of the head. the other thing is, i thought he mixed him up when martorano insisted that one of the victims he stabbed him four times and defense lawyer noted gee the forensic evidence shows he was ac...

12 years for 20 murders. what is your sense of the defense strategy? >> i think the defense was very effective today. heath brennan, whitey's lawyer, was very aggressive in going after martorano and got him to admit, yes, whitey, was the trigger man in one of the slayings that john was the guy shooting people between the eyes and in the back of the head. the other thing is, i thought he mixed them up a bit when martorano insisted that one of the victims he stabbed him four times and defense lawyer noted, gee, the forensic evidence, shows he was actually stabbed 20 times, john said, i really di...

Accidental, you know, innocent bystanders that got in the way, john says that, you know, really, it was him doing a favor for friends. >> so one of the big questions here is can the whitey bulger defense team chip away at his credibility because he killed 20 people and cut a good deal with the federal government in the '90s serving 12 years for 20 murders. what is your sense of the defense strategy? >> i think the defense was very effective today. he was aggressive in going after john and got him to admit yes whitey was the triggerman in one slaying that john was the guy shooting people betwee...

And said bulger was directly involved in some and said in bulger's gang, death was a way of life. shelley murphy joins us with more. shelley, help us understand this very significant day in court. this was the first time, right, a trial witness in this case a confessed killer john testified whitey bulger himself committed murder, right? >> that's right. he says that whitey was the triggerman in a bar owner back in '70s. they drove to the scene, they got out, walked down the hill. he heard a burst of fire, and he came back and said he is gone. >> eddy coners, the bar owner. that's the old hood....

Testified whitey bulger himself committed murders right? >> that's right. he says that whitey was the triggerman in a bar owner back in '70s. they drove to the scene, they got out, walked down the hill. he heard a burst of fire, they came back to the car and said he's gone. >> eddie connors, is that right, the bar owner? that's the old hood. >> that's right. >> i want you to help me. so john martorano has admitted to 20 murders. he said he doesn't like the word "hit man," doesn't consider himself to be a mass murderer. not a serial killer. what does he call himself? >> i think john has a very ...