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The extremism of republicans. and not have to answer many questions themselves. because the republican support such extreme bans. and it, as i said before, it is crushing them and wisconsin judicial races, in kansas, and kentucky, in a lot of red states. >> right, you know, joe. the thing that is been so hard to get a lot of people on the right to understand, that will still make people scream when you say it, is that the regime under roe v. wade, the system that it installed was a compromise. it was not a system that allowed for abortion on demand at any point in a pregnancy. it allowed for l...

Ways. the trimester system that blackman created in that ruling was itself a political compromise. said, we're not going to have -- we can restrict abortion it is to a limited degree in the third trimester, and it also meant that you would not have a full overturning of abortion. you couldn't outlaw abortion. that itself was a compromise, and the right, for political reasons, you know, kind of reinterpreted that, argued nit a different way, and said roe v. wade somehow allowed abortion on demand. it never did. and so what would have been a stable political compromise built on top of a supreme ...

Limits to set up a trimester system. two-thirds of the country wants to see where abortion in some cases is legalized. i think that's what kansas reaffirmed that there's still this large two-thirds of the country majority for something like roe. and that should tell people the possibility of legislating it on a national level. >> by the way, not in oregon. not in illinois. not in vermont. in kansas. >> yeah. >> and a lot of people say, and they are right, a lot of pro-lifers who say that if you look at polling on abortion, that it's complicated, mike barnicle, but it's actually, actually, if y...

Compromise if you believe abortion is murder, and most americans don't go that far. so i think this could be, i certainly think it will be a huge issue and perhaps rebound politically again -- >> so mike, i will say again, because members of the score a so negatively political i feel less bad asking a negatively political question of you, and that is, if this court tosses roe, what about the midterms? >> well, you are right. it will be a chainsaw fight. this is an issue where there is never subtlety, frankly, there is never much a discussion of constitutional law. row with a rather political d...

Fight. this is an issue where there is never subtlety. frankly, there is never much of a discussion of constitutional law. roe was a rather political decision to try to please the majority of people in the country by creating the trimester system and trying to land a very thorny constitutional question, which has turned into a really hot political war. so the midterms, it cuts in different ways. the more people in the country are pro-choice than pro-life. roe very symbolic, a flag in all that. but in a lot of places there is a pro-life conservative, more rural working majority, places like mis...