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With the it fisa application, they wuable to keep examining who he was talking to. that's why they did this, to get the president. >> preposterous. as i've said many times before, we-the predication to open the russia case. we-no idea who. the question is who are candidates who might be interacting with russia. we look at the people we know have established relationships are russian intelligence figures. kabd carter page was on that list. so that's why the case was opened on him. of course the rest, papadopoulos, obviously, that's the person who brought the information to us.

Manafort wassall red thesubject in a triminal case. and then of course michael flynn because of his high-proelds 2350e8 it interactions. and the reason the fisa went down is because we ultimately can determined he was not a conduit for operating as an ajt in a foreign power. and thatsz are why it went in some very different directions. >> appreciate it. >> thanks. that's is a conversation that's going to keep going because it is going to be part of this impeachment channel. >> it's the most serious decision. we're going to make them to yoin contectsed.

Is that in the weeds? a little bit. but matters in terms of how long it takes and what it looks like. let's start with phil maddingly on capitol hill. help us understand, phil, the intrigue of what wants what out of the senate. >> what's important is the majority leader. he controlls what happens in the united states senate. the impeachment rules make it more of a majority-led process. mitch mcconnell has made it clear one thing. he wants this as short as possible, to still be considered a legitimate trial. he wants the house democratic managers to present their case, the president's defense t...

Whistleblower, anybody and everybody testify live. but mcconnell and a lot of his republicans are moving towards is, in the words i'm told mcconnell said behind the scenes, that would be a mutually assured destruction product. there are moderates not as comfortable bringing in hunter biden or other witnesses the president wants. so they may not have the 51 votes necessary to do it. however, democrats will say we want mick mulvaney and they may have the 51 votes to get that done. what republicans are moving towards is keeping that from happening. keeping the trial short. long enough so the mode...