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Imprevisich that this bomber showed a lot of skill for me because i don't make bombs but one, he leaves packages. then he comes up with a trip wire and comes one a situation where he is able to get it to a location where it detonates maybe on a timer or maybe on touch. does that impress you, terry? >> well, it does, but, brian, while it impresses me it doesn't so much surprise me maybe you and i would have been passionate as we got younger making sure we got. build explosive or deadly devices to kill people. that's what they do. and that's the part of this we may never understand. as each day ...

Again. are there other devices in maybe not the fedex mail stream. did he drop something in a post office box? did he put something somewhere else? that's the big question going forward. i will tell you what though, a sound of release here in austin. we are not too far from the university of texas where they made it very clear in the wake of the trip wire bombing, they told the students there do us a favor. look up from your phone. watch where you are walking to make sure you don't walk into a device believe it or not, that would be a ripe targets the university of texas. take your ear buds ou...

Enforcement. steve: there is a lot we don't know yet. we don't know the motive. we don't know why he changed his delivery system. dropping things in front of houses and then a trip wire and ied and dropped stuff in the fedex mail stream. how do you put all that together? >> there was a sense of urgency here in austin. meaning the tempo of the attacks, i have not seen this kind of tempo. no model that fits with this 24-year-old bomber. motivation is going to be key. it would not be surprising for me to find some sort of statement or manifesto in his car or in his hotel room. that's going to be ...

Google. steve: 24-year-old guy. he probably somehow was tied to the internet. >> tied to the internet or the military. >> when you see the level of sophistication. it sounds simple, you have to make sure the package bomb doesn't blow up when you are putting it on the porch. steve: adding a trip wire that ratchets up the level of sophistication. >> if you want it to go through the fedex system and be delivered to the person who is targeted, you know, this is a level of sophistication that i find deeply distressing. god forbid it's an internet learned experience because i see copycat. ainsley: w...

This. you can have all these rationalizations and have political left and right and have all these motives. you still get counse down to why would someone want to do this? why would someone want to put a trip wire device out in a place where some mother with a stroller with a baby or two kids going to a little league game would trip it and die? why would someone want to do that? that's a part of human nature we still don't have an answer to. brian: two people died steven and ray len, a 17-year-old. i know steve have you been talking to an expert and have you been talking to terry. i'm sure hav...