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The white house about in this evening, anderson. in just the last few moments, i was told by a republican source that a messaging memo is going around to trump surrogates tonight telling them to emphasize that both sides, in the view of the white house, acted irresponsibly in charlottesville. anderson, that is a very clear indication that there are no regrets coming from the president's inner circle. he's beyond doubling and tripling down, but they are firmly cemented in this view that the president's initial response to all of this in charlottesville was the correct one. >> so what about his ...

Beijing who has been to pyongyang many times for us at cnn, so listening to president trump, tripling down. kept saying, he, you know, referencing kim jong-un felt a little bit different this time in his messaging. how do you think kim jong-un reacts to president trump this time? >> this is the thing, brooke. all of these responses, these fired responses we've seen from north korea so far haven't been direct quotes from kim jong-un. they're his generals or lower level government officials. he's putting out statements through officials in his government and then the president of the united stat...

From donald trump, he's being criticized. >> listen, i know that the white house, elise, is saying that there are no mixed messages, we're all on the same page, tillerson, mattis, trump, but again, you have this, you know, gloria's right, this tripling down, and yet you have what you are hearing, what you were just reporting, that the back channels and the -- let's bring them to the table and try diplomacy. how do you square those? >> reporter: okay, i think, you know, as gloria said, we need to really parse out what the president said and he kind of stopped himself. he said if he even threate...

He will regret it fast. gloria, what does that mean? >> look, this is a president who is tripling down. yesterday, he was doubling down. i think today you could easily say he is tripling down, and what's not clear to me is he said, if he utters one form of an overt threat, and then within the went on and said, and threatens guam, et cetera, well, he already has been threatening. kim has been uttering overt threats. >> the specifics of the guam attack, they're out there. >> right. they're already out there, so i'm not quite sure. i was trying to parse those words. i'm not quite sure what he mea...

Also indicating there that he thought iran had violated the spirit of the nuclear agreement as well. evelyn, the president tripling down, if not quadrupling down. today promising a big, big trouble. what does that mean? any idea? >> i'm hoping that whatever it is on monday, if it relates to north korea that they will announce some sort of diplomatic breakthrough. his rhetoric still is a bit alarming. as you pointed out rex tillerson the secretary of state made a big poibnt of saying the president's bluster was aimed to strengthen their diplomatic efforts. he did say at the end, he said that ki...