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When you surge in any war front like we did in afghanistan and then tell the enemy when you're going to leave, it creates an inherent lack of trust and that's exactly what happens now. i saw it day after day after day in afghanistan and i just got back. the afghans know we're leaving in 2014, because of that they like decisions looking at a post american future, which widens the trust gap which is what you need when you're training afghan soldiers. i think we need to responsibly withdraw and making sure we do not allow a haven for the enemies in the process. >> dave: we're seeing your pictures...

But this fear that we don't trust government leaders. now parents may not trust sending their kids to school. what do we do about this issue? because, you know, maybe it's just the times that we live in, and that we're always focusing on the negative, but there seems to be this trust gap with the public in way that we haven't seen before. >> you know, you said it. it's not just a crime, and it is a crime. it's not just a horrendous abuse of children, it's a violation of the trust that people have when they send their kids to our schools. it's why i've written our governor and said that we have...

A lot. if he really wants to beat mitt romney, i believe he needs to consolidate his support into rick santorum. i think rick perry needs to go back and be the best governor of the country, the governor of texas. but we need an alternative to mitt romney to go one on one. romney doesn't want a one on one, and i think santorum could be that person. >> bob, i want to just go in reverse order here, quickly, on this question. if mitt romney emerges as an unstoppable front-runner, will you be able to support him? and what kind of support do you think he will get from your allies in iowa? >> well, i...

Looking at santorum the whole time. if we give him the push he is needed he could have a surprise finish and that is what we hope for. >>neil: you feared whether it was a personal or not, to the other candidates they will split the vote and a lost pollsters agree with you, that is a distinct we possibility and romney runs up the middle and wins what what what is your beef with governor romney? >>guest: well, when you take a look at the polls, 80 percent of americans and at least iowa caucus goers, they have coe -- coe -- grouped around one person, for us there is a trust gap. he has been passi...

Are those reports accurate and why so? >> again, i would never comment on any of the internal deliberations that go on. i've been involved in selection processes for many years and there are always a lot of rumors and there are certainly no clear outcomes anduntil quite franklye president makes his decision and as i indicated earlier, we continue to await that announcement, sorry. >> you also recently returned from pakistan along with secretary of state hillary clinton. basically, the question is can we trust pakistan and pakistani intelligence in the wake of the usama bin laden issue? >> well...