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The president now do? i don't think he can in good faith ever talk to robert mueller anymore. >> nobody should ever talk to a prosecutor unless they have absolutely no alternative. no prosecutor is trying to help a person who is a subject of an investigation. just ask martha stewart what happens when you talk to prosecutors. >> sean: that was horrible. it wasn't that lying to the fbi? not the underlying crime. >> that's of course why they want him to come and testify. you can be charged with perjury for telling the truth. if somebody else gives a contrary story and prosecutors do believe the o...

>> nobody should ever talk to a prosecutor unless they have absolutely no alternative. no prosecutor is trying to help a person who is a subject of an investigation.an just ask martha stewart what happens when you talk to prosecutors. >> sean: that was horrible. wasn't that lying to the fbi? not the underlying crime. >> that's of course why they want him to come and testify. you can be charged with perjury for telling the truth. if somebody else gives aan contrary story and prosecutors decide to believe the other person. you can end up in a perjury trap for telling the truth. >> sean: unbeliev...

No, is chris, i said you should had trust mueller to do the investigation. >> but mueller's coming at him. he's got something to hide. mueller is going to find it and then he's dead. right? >> if you're asking me, should the president release his tax returns? of course, he should. he should be much more transparent than he has been. i'm sure direct ker mueller find out what he needs to know. i can't understand why the president had has been reluctant to release it. i suspect he'll concerned about financial entanglements. >> there's things we know. we know his lawyer michael cohen paid $130,000...

In polling at least republicans start to respond, saying that they don't really trust mueller. that they don't really like this probe in the first place. so this campaign that the president has been waging against his own justice department is starting to seep in and that might be kind of his whole point. >> jonathan, caitlyn, lanny. stay with us. coming up, will somebody in the republican primary be the president in 2020. it is a possibility. >> and the guy who has a plan for how to do it, ahead. little things can be a big deal. that's why there's otezla. otezla is not an injection or a cre...

Made by nunez, the author of the memo and comments made by donald trump jr., you get the complete opposite message. >> i think one of the biggest losers in the entire process is a man i believe is honorable. i believe the speaker is honorable, but led down a path that's going to be incredibly destructive. think of the issues at play here. you're saying the intelligence that drove the investigation is bad, but the investigation is great? that mueller is building an investigation built on faulty intelligence, but you still trust mueller? how do you do that? the second thing is more significant, ...