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Million. there's not enough deterrence and there is lax safety on -- not on all movie sets and television sets -- but on several. history -- >> -- bring up different issues is that -- as movies have to amp up the excitement and the stunts, then, you see fast and furious. you just saw the mission: impossible trailer with tom cruise doing, literally, death defying stunts. then, the risk level, naturally goes higher. because the audience expectation of yet more thrilling things to see on screen goes higher. so, that's not what happened on this set. this was a western in the most traditional sense...

Because she has also been charged, but also alec baldwin and the responsibility for him and having handled the weapon, to perform a similar safety check that would have been expected at with that armorer -- how do you see it? >> obviously, we teach a class. we do a workshop based on -- rust sort of brought this whole thing to bear. and a big part of the class is to break down the many failings on the rust set. and we have identified about 35 really particular contributing factors. so, when we have a workshop, in a -- room filled with gun professionals -- all these things happen, you tell me, w...

Actor on the set, he was also a producer. so, all of the evidence that the prosecutor talked about in terms of totality of the evidence, there's a lot of evidence out there about these safety lapses. the armorer sending text messages saying, she was stretched too thin. we know the armor herself didn't have a great deal of experience. crews walking off the set because of safety violations. and other allegations about safety problems on that set. i think the prosecutors, not just looking at alec baldwin the actor, but looking at his responsibilities as a producer, to make sure that that set was ...

Very intense -- how you referred to helicopters -- that is not what was going on the set. >> true, true, but -- >> hold on, one second. i've got to tell you. this is not going to end today, this conversation. but unfortunately, it has to in tonight. and we are going to carry on -- talk about this very important issue. i thank you both. everyone, thank you for watching. our coverage does continue. (kathryn) now, after this year's event, subaru and our retailers are prproud to have donated over two hundred and fifty million dollars to c charity. (brent) just tremendously satisfying to know that ...

He never pulled the trigger. so, you know, that is the biggest question. and how did live bullet on the set? >> josh, i want to talk about that latter part as well, and we'll circle back to that, i think it's inching about what the family is saying today. versus what they said following that private settlement. we'll get to that in just a moment. on that point about the trigger, and whether it was actually pulled by alec baldwin. you asked the dea about this very notion, what did she have to say? >> i did, this is so interesting. one thing that we learned in that interview, there's been this d...