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Situation from me, not from the intermediaries. >> now the friction there is not really necessarily so much about whether an attack is imminent or further away, although that has played into it. it is really about the use of language, which is causing consternation in the markets here. it's having an economic effect. and it, of course, an economic effect, a weakening of the ukrainian economy that would be part of any russian play in terms of the pressure that it wants to bring on ukraine, on the international community over its attempts to stop ukraine from joining nato. it would also be a pre...

Chiefs chairman there, discussing the growing crisis between ukraine and russia. and the u.s. role in all of this. still pushing for a diplomatic solution here. want to bring back our analysts and reporters. formernato supreme allied commander, general wesley clark. your biggest takeaway? >> i think the big push is allied unity, reassuring our allies. not being provocative. seeking a diplomatic solution. i thought the -- secretary austin and secretary milley said it well. and they reinforced it again and again. the secretary of what secretary austin was saying was this is not provocative. when...

Interested in them. interested in helping them. the types of things we do with them routinely is train with them and enable them and really increase their level of readiness and so that's been very helpful to them. and it has strengthened our bonds with our allies and partners in the region. these are temporary deployments. and so, again, we will continue to sort this out as we go forward. but again, we are focused on nato. we're focused on reassuring our allies and that's what this is all about. in terms of trusting putin, i don't think this is about trusting putin. this is about our allies t...

But that comes with refugees heading west into the e.u., that causes his own problems for europe and that could be a consideration as putin for a weapon. and one of the key questions an we heard both austin and milley address this quickly, that is a question of would there be a imminent deployment or a call up or an activation of either 8,500 troops in the u.s. or troop movement in europe in response to europe. that was answered fairly quickly. >> that hasn't happened yet. but both made it clear that option, that consideration remains something that is being discussed, whether to do that as --...

Violated. the idea of trusting putin even though he's got a signature on a document is an absurdity. the only way we deal with that agreement is obviously we hold him accountable and holding up to that agreement. but trust him, never. the only thing that putin truly respects is strength and the will of his opponents, and he is questioning the will of the united states and also of the european allies in dealing and protecting ukraine, helping to defend ukraine in terms of arms, and also seeing this crisis through to the end. he has question marks about all of that, and that's why he's here beca...