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Words cannot explain, i was elated. i was just happy to see him. >> did he tell you what it was like when he realized he had been shot? >> i guess he was -- i guess he was just more than in shock, unbelieving. as well as shocked, as well. i was told to call him, because i just got off work. i saw a shooting at ft. hood. i said okay, i need to call. so i called him, and i did get in touch with him. i said, what's going on? i said, are you okay? he kind of hesitated in a way, and he said, well, i was one of the victims that had been shot. i said -- when he said that, it just didn't register at t...

Him. and words cannot explain -- i was elated. i was just happy to see him. >> did he tell you what it was like when he first realized he'd been shot? >> i guess he was just -- i guess he was just more than shocked, unbelieving. as well as i was shocked as well. because i was told to call him. because i had just got off work. i saw a shooting at fort hood. it's like, okay, i need to call. so i called him. and i did get in touch with him. i said, what's going on? i said, are you okay? he kind of hesitated in a way. and he said, well, i was one of the victims that had been shot. i said -- when h...

Faith in that area, as big as it is, it can't really hurt anything to get that vehicle in the water, get some operational expertise in that area, see what you see, and start crossing areas off where the plane isn't. and i think that's important information now. so i think it can be valuable. but you don't want to burn out the teams, either. they want to be pretty judicious. the one thing i have to say is that once this gets going full speed, both vehicles in the water, we need to leave that team alone. because they're going to be plenty busy and they can't second guess what they're doing. >> t...

You here. the towed pinger locater. in the water as we speak, searching for these pings from the black boxes. what do you think the chances are that we'll find anything? >> well, in case of the air france, we had two towed pinger locaters. we went over the whole area. and the water is so deep that you have 10,000 meters of cable behind the ship. so it's very difficult to narrow down the position >> it doesn't sound like you're very optimistic. is this just a case where it's better than nothing? >> i mean, in this case you have to try everything, everything. and especially the pingers are going...

>> our thanks to randi. joining me to talk again is analyst david gallo, also with us sylvan pascoe who was a technical adviser in the investigation of the air france 447 crash. and sylvan, let me start with you here. the towed pinger locater. in the water as we speak, searching for these pings from the black boxes. what do you think the chances are that lit find anything? >> well, in case of the air france, we had two towed pinger locaters. we went over the whole area. and the water is so deep that you have 10,000 meters of cable behind the ship. so it's very difficult to narrow down the posi...