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And human being is manifest in the questioning or the decision of the case, it will damage the reputation of the court. >> greg: what do you think, juan? >> juan: but justice scalia, who favored a conservative point of view -- nobody thought that. you asked me, "what is the analogous situation?" and i'm telling you it doesn't hold water. let me finish up with what i was saying. >> kimberly: did scalia ever made comments like that about president obama? >> juan: if you befriend people in the administration, how can you render a fair verdict to your friend? >> jesse: the code of conduct doesn't ...

The vitriol will happen. and it's incumbent upon us now to do what he won't. stand up and say when something is wrong, when something is hateful, to point it out and be vigilant about it and not pack -- back down. >> what was your view of steve bannon and his orientation towards this part of the movement? >> i was their media consultant. and when i saw them evolve from a platform to chronicle the movement to becoming a participant and the propaganda arm of the trump campaign, that's something i couldn't associate with. that's why i made the decision to leave. giving a platform and sounding boa...

The vitriol will happen. and it's incumbent upon us now to do what he won't. stand up and say when something is wrong, when something is hateful, to point it out and be vigilant about it and not pack do -- back down. >> what was your view of steve bannon and his orientation towards this part of the movement? >> i was their media consultant. and when i saw them evolve from a platform to chronicle the movement to becoming a participant and the propaganda arm of the trump campaign, that's something i couldn't associate with. that's why i made the decision to leave. giving a platform and sounding ...

Can't -- i look back over the past 50 years. i never once had a conversation in my house or heard another conversation in any of my friends' houses that ever sounded like what i heard on the oklahoma bus. when mika said we're all shaken i'm trying to figure out where does that come from? my son joey went to university of alabama, and he told me early on he heard one or two guys say some racist things and he looked at them and goes that's irony, right? you are being ironic, you are making fun of rednecks right? but it was very limited. i don't know. did you ever hear anything like this in tenne...

Sort of felony conviction. and you can't associate with other felons. can't associate with your neighbors. >> this is one of the accomplishments of 2013 is we've seen a little bit of movement on the banning the box movement, including target actually saying they're going to ban the box, that mark that i've been incarcerated. doesn't mean they can't ask or won't ask on those initial pieces of application, but it's such a good point because it's not just serving your time, it's the time you are then expected to serve in terms of the ability to get school loans and housing and all of those things...