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And these parents are telling them, either hide or get out of there, and they're staying on the phone with their students, and they're getting them through these moments. these moments of crisis, and they're trained -- these parents really are heros in these situations. >> but to be on the receiving end of that call, darren, let me bring you into this conversation. to be a parent on the -- it's a whole other level of parenting now. parents have to have instructions for their kids if they call them about an active shooter in school. >> it's traumatic, but children are taught and we as law enfor...

Parent when you get this phone call or this text from your student as who is confused about it. >> the bested a vice i can give to the viewer is this -- tell your child, look around, use your senses. do you see a threat, if not, if you can move away, do it. don't go at a full run. the reason you don't want to go at a full run is because you can lose danger around you. you want to move at a fast walk or slow trot. always scanning. if you see a threat and can't get away, shelter in place, lock it down, barricade, do everything you can do.

>> the gunman entered santa fe high school at 7:45 a.m. our affiliate kprc was able to speak to some students who were able to escape safely. >> i was in the history hallway and as soon as we heard the alarms everybody just -- you know, started leaving, following the same procedure as we did because nobody thought it would be this. nobody thought it was a shooting. everybody thought it was a -- you know, normal procedure practice fire drill and next thing you know we just hear so many -- three gunshots. loud explosions and all the teachers are telling us to run, run, go, like run. nobody shoul...

There was a fire or a fire drill and responding to that. to be clear, for some people who don't have young students, students in some parts of the country are trained by a combination of law enforcement and their schools about how to deal with fire drills. we've all learned that. but how to deal with an active shooter situation, a shelter in place type of warning. >> right. the requirement is for all schools national to conduct the drills. i believe this school just conducted one relatively recent. there's a difference between a fire drill or if there's an active shooter drill. as i mentioned ...

That romney is very seriously laid the groundwork for a potential senate bid with hatch's retirement. most people in utah are expecting mitt romney to run, so the question now is, what kind of senator mitt romney will be. if he does run, he'll almost certainly win. the question is, what kind of senator will he be? will he want to hold trump accountable, or will he use his influence to try to pass major republican legislation, in which case he'd probably try to mend fences with the white house. time will tell. >> right. and joe watkins, finish us up on that. is it the severe conservative? that'...