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Discussion, some actions, so that we can get to a solution on this border. i know that some of the men and women who work in d.h.s. have been characterized as cruel, heartless. that is not the case. you will see first hand today the amount of care that goes in the family and the children of people we encounter here. you will have an opportunity to facility where the folks work and where the individuals are housed. there has been miss information put out for the general public of the conditions of the facilities and how the people care for the immigrants that we encounter. this is tucson center...

Observed. but what he is talking about, the worker i talked to from the tucson facility, run by the same nonprofit, he's talking about what happens when the media isn't there, when staff are interacting with youth. he said things had started to break apart after the zero tolerance policy because staff were becoming overwhelmeded by kids, in particular, young what they called tender age kids, under age 13, who had been separated from their parents, did not know where their parents were and in many cases were not notified or put in touch with their parents for several weeks. >> jacob, for folks ...