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Al assad paid a price for using the chemical weapons in the sense that he lost part of his air power. >> tucker: right. in afghanistan the use of that massive bomb had the effect of killing isis fighters and damaging a tunnel complex that theyrs had been using against the afghan regulars and our own forces. so these things had military purposes. but, as i say, military purposes that are valid and stand alone but they also had the additional effect of changing the diplomatic atmosphere. and i think, you know,ch we have been trying this -- we talked about the use of force for some time now, you ...

Was before the committee he said he was satisfied with the authority he had and i assumed this is not a new authority. it was something he was authorized. deploying a particular weapons system. >> right. but there was a comment that said, look, in the previous administration, we wouldn't have dropped this without at least alerting the white house. in this one we don't have to alert the white house. that that is the essentially -- that's essentially changed. are you comfortable with that change? >> i think there has to be communication obviously between the white house and their field commander...

And good use of this bomb? >> absolutely. it was the exact type of weapon that was necessary for that target. isis has moved into that region over the course of about two years. the district runs right up against the border with pakistan. it's also in the same area where we went on after bin laden. that cave complex and tunnel complex is massive. we lost to greenbrae there sadly, last week, and the reason is they have the entire region mind going up to the tunnels and in the caves, and so to be honest, to me, using that weap weapon, i think the casualties are up to about 100 isis fighters but ...

The largest non-nuclear device ever deployed by the military. let's watch this and we'll talk about it. >> there is no sound on this. you can see it. >> very large impact. that is the aftermath right there. we will re-rack it and show it one more time. "spider" if you can watch this and tell us what we're seeing as we are seeing it here. >> notice the terrain. it is veryrestrictive. when you have a concussive blast, it will be contained in the smaller area. the force of the blast is exacerbated based on where it is striking. bear in mind this was a tunnel complex. again, as the shockwave goes ...

Bombs, why are we using it right now when we had it since 2003. what is the change here? >> inauguration day with the change. when it was developed it was designed to take out a tunnel complex, cave complex or underground facilities like nuclear places, kim in north korea, it served a dual purpose, killed a lot of bad guys which is a good thing and serve to deter other bad actors from acting bad. those two things, the best use for military hardware ever is to stop somebody from doing something that makes us use it. if it stops any of the bad guys, vladimir putin, assad, kim in north korea, fro...