>> i remember them saying, "oh, it was with the -- turkey thingy." >> it was with, like, a turkey baster? >> yeah, if somebody -- yeah, if somebody asked. >> so now she's gotta -- now she's got a secret. >> yeah, at that point. >> reporter: wait, at that point? yes. because tanya just couldn't leave it there. the next time, she admitted something very, very shocking. >> and tanya said, "well, we did it the old-fashioned way." >> reporter: james and marie had sex. which tanya told the ladies was. and as months passed and marie started showing, there was a baby shower. but oh, no. not for marie....