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So, you put those two things together and you have the ingredients for division, whether the media have been responsible or not. but the media was able to amplify, particularly tv media, amplify and exaggerate, to the point where people knew different facts about the world and, so, having a conversation with someone was difficult because you say it is tuesday and they say it is wednesday, and, well, that is difficult to sort your calendars out if that is what you are dealing with. you talk about tv, i mean, you did continue to report from america in tv documentaries and in 2017, an clip of you...

So you put those two things together and you have the ingredients for division, whether the media have been responsible or not. but the media was able to amplify, particularly tv media, amplify and exaggerate, to the point where people knew different facts about the world and, so, having a conversation with someone was difficult because you say it is tuesday and they say it is wednesday and, well, that is difficult to sort your calendars out if that is what you are dealing with. you talk about tv. i mean, you did continue to report from america in tv documentaries and in 2017, a clip of you in...

Kind of half a century. poverty was a serious, serious problem for an awful lot of people. put those two things together and you have the ingredients for division. whether the media have been responsible or not. the media was able to amplify, particularly tv media, amplify and exaggerate, to the point where people knew different facts about the world and so having a conversation with someone was difficult because you say it is tuesday and they say it is wednesday, and well, thatis say it is wednesday, and well, that is difficult to sort that out if that is what you are dealing with.— out if ...

And they say it is wednesday and, well, that is difficult to sort your calendars out if that is what you are dealing with. you talk about tv, i mean, you did continue to report from america in tv documentaries and in 2017, an clip of you interviewing the american white supremacist richard spencer, for channel 4, went viral. you are really proud of your racism, aren't you? you're really proud to be a bigot? i'm proud to be a white man. that's different to being proud to be a bigot. if africans had never existed, world history would be almost exactly the same because we are the genius that drive...

For kind of half a century. poverty was a really serious, serious problem for an awful lot of people. so you put those two things together and you have the ingredients for division, whether the media have been responsible or not. but the media was able to amplify, particularly tv media, amplify and exaggerate, to the point where people knew different facts about the world and, so, having a conversation with someone was difficult because you say it is tuesday and they say it is wednesday and, well, that is difficult to sort your calendars out if that is what you are dealing with. you talk about...