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Effing crazy. we need to be doing something more. >> so we just heard testimony that there are two people who heard donald trump say what cassidy hutchinson is describing, and that is what white house counsel pat cipollone and chief of staff mark meadows. >> that is right, lawrence. that testimony corroborating cassidy hutchinson if it could be elicited from mark meadows could be very important. cassidy hutchinson also testified about how on the mall, as people refused to go through the metal detectors, and donald trump is complaining that he doesn't like how the shot, the photograph is going ...

This sort of automatic deference to the office that his staff still gets? >> they have to create questions, dub tails are the points that i want to make next. you see that of the president's bizarre encounter with kim jong-un at the dnz in north korea. i mean they are treating this like this is actual genuine diplomacy when fact the press has been cooperative and to part of donald trump's surreal reality tv show. he's been cuddling one of the murderous dictators the world ever known just because it makes for a good tv image. the press is not covering as what it is which is just a stunt. they a...

Violence. >> sandra: senator james lankford, great to have you on this morning. >> bill: we will get to that quickly. the saudi crown prince speaking about the killing of jamaal khashoggi. a justice will prevail. where are we on this story? >> quite significant. it was the first time that we have heard directly appeared a bigger news coming out of saudi arabia today pure news that the saudi prosecutor's office believes that this was indeed premeditated murder. of course, that is a real shift in the narrative for them. remember all along, they had said that he had left out of the back door, alt...

Strapped by the flooding of the latest typhoon. new this morning, donald trump said that. critical. some may say derogatory comments about the appearance of the one woman in the race. carly fiorina. trump reacts to a tv image of fiorina by shouting "look at that face, would anyone vote for that, can you imagine that?" she's a woman and i'm not supposed to say bad things, but come on, are we serious? overnight, fiorina responded to the comments to megyn kelly. >> many thousands of voters out there who are helping me climb in the polls. yes, they are serious. >> what do you take that to mean? ...

Better but the strategy is simply to allow her to be herself and to follow the causes she's interested in and support her husband but also just to do things she wants to do. when people do meet her, they are charmed because the person you see on tv just isn't the person that exists in real life. they can't really control that tv image. as she meets more people more people warm to her and she's being more authentic now. i think people are trusting a bit more in the person that they see now. >> interesting. max foster thanks so much. cnn's spotlight charles and camilla an exclusive interview wit...