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In film or in london. that meant going out of london and working in the regional theatre, which is what i did and what derek did and judi dench did... it is what we all did, and expected to do and wanted to do because we knew, whether we had been to drama school or not, i didn't go, that is where you would learn your trade, that is where you are discovering your strengths and weaknesses. i just learned how to act. you did these hard yards of theatre for decades really, before you had this transformative moment in tv and film, but is one of the real reasons that you spent so long in theatre, ra...

...McKellen. Amol Rajan talks to Ian McKellen, one of the most celebrated performers of his generation.

To do, because we knew, whether we had been to drama school or not, i didn't go, that is where you would learn your trade, that is where you are discovering your strengths and weaknesses. i just learned how to act. you did these hard yards of theatre for decades really, before you had this transformative moment in tv and film, but is one of the real reasons that you spent so long in theatre, rather than going for it on tv and film, that your first adventures in tv and film were tricky? do you remember your first ever tv performance, if i told you it was 1964 and you're halfway up a tree, could...

Or not, i did not go, that is where you would learn your trade, that is where you are discovering your strengths and weaknesses. i just learned how to act. you did these hard yards of theatre for decades really before you had this transformative moment in tv and film, but is one of the real reason is that you spent so long in theatre, rather than going for it on tv and film, that your first adventures in tv and film were tricky? do you remember your first ever tv performance, if i told you it was 1964 and you're halfway up a tree, could you remember where you were? i think i was in the bbc tel...

Until january 20th, we'll haven't seen rudy giuliani on a major tv since then, which is surprising. his whole job or one of his main goals is to publicly undermine the confidence in bob mueller's report. one wave hey he's done that is going on tv repeatedly but he hasn't been on since january. that's a little surprising given his whole job is to go on tv and sort of undermine the mueller report. that obviously matters because what we've heard from sources privately is that the president is unhappy with rudy giuliani's last tv performance in which he sort of implicated the president and said hi...