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Sort of collectively saying you know what? maybe now is not a good time to hire and invest. >> you have a looming deficit republicans used to care about. >> that's one of the real risks here. if we do have a recession, there is not a lot of powder left in the gun right now because we took on $2 trillion worth of debt, normally if there is a recession, what you would expect the president and congress to do would be to call for more fiscal stimulus. there is no room or little room for effective stimulus. beyond that if we did have policy tools, this white house fund mentally does not have a plan...

>> you have a looming deficit republicans used to care about. now nobody seems to care. >> that's one of the real risks here. if we do have a recession, there is not a lot of powder left in the gun right now because we took on $2 trillion worth of debt, normally if there is a recession, what you would expect the president and congress to do would be to call for more fiscal stimulus. there is no room or little room for effective stimulus. beyond that if we did have policy tools, this white house fund mentally does not have a plan and do not have competent personnel in place to develop a plan. >...

Point that's great. we have got to be very careful because the russians are the pressure point for syria just like the chinese are the pressure point for north korea. abby: that's not what some liberals are saying though. we are saying we don't need air strikes to solve this problem or make it better. we need to lift the ban on syrian refugees coming into this country. what do you say to that? >> elizabeth warren has been tweeting stuff over the weekend i find it amazing. she thinks the best thing to do is bring more refugees into america. when elizabeth warren takes syrian refugees into her o...

>> i think the answer is no. >> i wish his answers would be longer. >> but bleeding republicans are annoyed and they keep getting them because the president keeps tweeting stuff. >> when u.s. citizens get caught up in surveillance, are there identities being protected? is their privacy being protected? all of that has gotten lost because the president fired off an early morning tweet very authoritatively saying that the previous administration had wire tapped him and setting off this whole scharade with the white house and pulling in all of these other investigations that are going on. people ...

Weird and it is inappropriate. >> having met him he is very present when you are with him and a very nice person and a one-on-1 and 1 of those people that is really into it. you ask him to take a selfie. he's in the moment. and look at this picture. i mean, i can so him sort of going what where, i can't wait to get there. >> you can get away with it in the private but in public sector he would be at hr every woke if he survived at all. >> you bring up a good point. i remember tweeting stuff and writing stuff and maybe not too much information and you learn as you go. >> i have to admit he look...