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Going to be flummoxed or -- or -- or deterred by these tactics. there are other people who are talking to the committee. they are gathering quite a bit of information. and after all, the suspicion about bannon wasn't fed by some anonymous tip. it was -- it was fueled by the things that he said on his own podcast. >> right. he said all hell's going to break loose tomorrow. i mean, he was very spechk. >> exactly. exactly. >> dana, and -- and david, fwuld if you would stay with us. joining me now, congresswoman, appreciate you being with us. what message do you believe the committee has sent toni...

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Justice should be diligent about how they pursue this because there will be a lot of questions about it. and they have to be concerned about doing things properly. in terms of delaying, i -- look -- donald trump's whole business model for -- throughout his career and his model in government was to defy, delay, string things out, try and wear down his opponents by litigating everything and it's not surprising to see him do that here. my sense just watching these proceedings and talking to those i know is that this committee is determined to move forward, and they're getting information. they do...

>> this is -- this is really interesting. it's very murky. the last time this kind of happened was with ali north and the iran contra investigation. and so, what happened there is congress really wanted the information, so they granted north immunity to testify. and so, that's what bannon's lawyers are probably going to be working on right now. is they will say, okay, we'll show up. we'll testify. as long as you give us immunity from prosecution. that means the prosecutors have to ignore anything he says in their -- in the hearings while they build a potential case against bannon for conspirac...

With his co-conspirators while plotting to overturn an election and fomenting against the government and constitution, i mean, what's executive privilege for? does it surprise you to hear people basically saying, oh, department of justice won't want to get involved in this or if the courts get involved, it will take forever and there is no point? >> well, look. i think the -- the department of justice should be diligent about how they pursue this because there will be a lot of questions about it. and they have to be concerned about doing things properly. in terms of delaying, i -- look -- dona...