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That abuse of power is not a crime. >> you know, it seems like the president has always wanted a roy kaun to head the justice department. he's always wanted a personal lawyer and he finally got it on his third try with william barr and what's so troubling here is the fact that barr seemed to open this investigation in the first place, the original administrative investigation that he housed up with the u.s. attorney in connecticut. he seemed to open that in response to the president's twitter chatter, calling for an investigation, talking about treason which everyone knows is not on the table....

This? are you getting a sense of that in briefings? >> yeah. first of all, there's no determination yet made as to what's behind it. obviously, it appears they all were hoaxes but having said that just last week there was isis twitter chatter, which basically was talking about the use of hoaxes. now, i'm not saying that isis is behind this but that certainly is something that has to be looked into or whether or not isis is talking about it sends out signals out to supporters here in the u.s. or around the world. basically the chatter was that these types of hoaxes can be almost as effective as...