About the fact these been kicked off these platforms and him having a direct tie to his audience that no one can police is a very, very scary thought. >> where do we end up, oliver? a year from now if he launches this thing, where are we going to be? one america, two different worlds, split right down, no overlap at all? >> if it succeeds perhaps you see more of a splintering of the information -- >> you're skeptical. you said if he succeeds. >> i have a hard -- this is coming from the person who couldn't even run a successful blog for more than a month. >> that's fair. >> this has been tried ...