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It will make the refugee crisis worse and europeans will look at how do we deal with this problem that putin is creating. >> the president and white house keep saying that putin is acting out of weakness and that russia is going to get involved in a quagmire in syria like they did in afghanistan. are you as confident as they are that this is a loser for putin? >> not at all. does it look weak to you what putin is doing in syria? look at the situation for those opposition forces that we've been supporting. putin says he's coming in to fight isis. in fact, what he's doing is bombing those opposi...

It will make the refugee crisis worse and europeans will look at how do we deal with this problem that putin is creating. >> the president and white house keep saying that putin is acting out of weakness and that russia is going to get involved in a quagmire in syria like they did in afghanistan. are you as confident as they are that this is a loser for putin? >> not at all. does it look weak to you what putin is doing in syria? look at the situation for those opposition forces that we've been supporting. putin says he's coming in to fight isis. in fact, what he's doing is bombing those opposi...

>> nothing's changed about the fact that there are efforts to stabilize the situation in syria, much less go against isil. and there is an international coalition fighting isil, 62-some-odd nations. and as we said yesterday, we would welcome a constructive role by russia in those efforts, but it can't begin and it can't continue under the condition where the assad regime continues to get military support. >> the bottom line on that on policy, steve, is fine. the u.s. says they're anti-assad. go ahead. >> i love john kirby, he's a great guy. but it's almost orwellian, this notion that you have ...

>> nothing's changed about the fact that there are efforts to stabilize the situation in syria, much less go against isil. and there is an international coalition fighting isil, 62-some-odd nations. and as we said yesterday, we would welcome a constructive role by russia in those efforts, but it can't begin and it can't continue under the condition where the assad regime continues to get military support. >> the bottom line on that on policy, steve, is fine. the u.s. says they're anti-assad. go ahead. >> i love john kirby, he's a great guy. but it's almost orwellian, this notion that you have ...

That have been affected. more than 100 killed and 1,000 wounded. they're doing every possible event to have an end to this scene and restore the agreement reached in 2012. i don't think that the -- from the ground or missiles will get us anywhere. the only thing now is -- zero hour. so the fighting can stop. this is not a war between two armies and two navies and two air forces. this is something that we need to contain through restoration of the ceasefire and then to continue with the reconciliation and continue forward with the negotiations. because at the end of the day