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Depree. he was impeached on february 18th 2019. he will forever remain impeached, period. >> i love seeing a harvard law professors go to battle with one another. if speaker pelosi's constitutional obligation to transmit these articles of impeachment and the reason for that is in the impeachment clause in the constitution clearly provided for a two-step process. step two's trial in the senate. in particular, if the house can impeach the president but deny that president the right to vindicate himself in a senate trial, i think the entire constitutional design will be frustrated. >> harris: in ...

Congress. >> is the question of witnesses in the senate trial really closed here? because it is majority rule. is it possible democrats there could get a handful of republicans to agree with them that some of these witnesses need to be call or can mcconnell just block that from even being considered? >> yeah, it's a two-step process. first, mitch mcconnell has to cut a deal with chuck schumer over exactly how the rules of the process, the trial will play out. and that's basic bookkeeping stuff. but what the democrats are pushing for in that rules package is to detail the witnesses and the docu...

>> that's a great question. the fact is in my judgment at least it is inconsistent with the structure of the constitution for a speaker to hold onto the articles of impeachment. the constitution does not give the speaker of the house the right to veto an impeachment resolution that's been passed by the house. the framers enacted a two-step process. step one come impeachment by the house. step two, trial and the senate. as we know it's speaker pelosi were to hold his articles indefinitely, never transmit them to the senate, then the president would be deprived of his constitutional right to def...

The judiciary committee where clearly the president felt emboldened that he could take it a step further and interfere in the next election. and that is something that is unacceptable. so if we had done nothing i think it really would have been a tragedy to our democracy, and we just could not sit on your hands. >> when you look towards the senate trial assuming that the house does vote on it next week, what do americans take from it apart from the predictions and expectations about the ultimate outcome? what is the point of having a public trial and accountability for it? >> well, as you know...

That's unacceptable. so if we had done nothing, i think it would have been a tragedy to our democracy and we just could not sit on our hands. >> when you look towards the senate trial, assuming the house does vote on this next week, what are americans to take from it apart from the predictions or expectations about the ultimate outcome. what is the point, as you say, of catching a crime, as you put it, in progress? what's the point? >> as you know the impeachment prosesz is a two-step process. so what we did is essentially indict the president and then we hand him over to the senate for a tria...