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Conversation. >> can i say one more thing just about what you said about, tony what you're saying about the senate, all these senators that you know have these bad nra ratings. i mean that is part of the problem. you're sort of making it out like they are reflecting public sentiment or something. they are afraid of the nra. the nra is going to bombard their district if they do anything reasonable. and so you're presenting it like the nra is so reasonable, and they are not reasonable. >> their constituents, not just the nra. martha: we have to go. thank you, guys. we'll talk more about this. th...

Speaker ten days ago. he's looking stronger now. i think republicans understand that the deal they get after the first of the year is a worst deal than they get before the end of the year because the next congress is more favorable to democrats. i think he's in a better position to make the sale this time. >> one thing we have been watching is the two-step process. tom cole of oklahoma has taken a lot of heat from his own party suggesting to get the tax cuts out of the way for the tax cuts. here is what he's having to say about that. >> none of us want to raise the rates on anybody. but the re...

Acceptab acceptable. >> mitch mcconnell after his meeting with the president and congressional leaders said revenue is on the table. does that mean we are going to see something big and bold or is it more likely that it's just going to be an interim kick the can down the road six-month extension kind of thing? >> i think the likely outcome there will be some kind of compromise. we're hearing talk about a two-step process. first off, what's good the leaders are talking and clearly trying to come to some agreement. this fiscal cliff is such a real threat and it's a huge way of focusing our atten...

Kind of thing that can really get in the way of these peace negotiations. one of the things on this side that has been so helpful so far and has given the diplomatic maneuvering a bit of breathing room, the iron dome missile defense system which has proven to be so successful here. it has limited the collateral damage on the ground in israel significantly. there were three deaths but after that there haven't been any. as a result, they can talk about these. if there was an incident that killed a lot of people here, we would be in a different situation. >> stephanie gosk and richard engel, tryi...

>> right. rick: doesn't a utility company though that serves the public have a legal responsibility to keep up with technology, to keep up with equipment, to get the latest, to make sure that there itheir infrastructure is in place to serve the country. >> that's why i like it's a class action lawsuit instead of independent complaints. those happen as we know all the time. but a class action like this will get major media attention, will get us all talking about it, and if they prevail i'm hoping that other utility companies around the country will say, you know, we probably don't want to have...