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Bigger, harder cosmic question. it is very hard to report on what we don't know and we try not to report ignorantly. what you're saying as i understand it, in some ways it is possible that the biggest story, the biggest problem overhanging this administration is the fact it is possible because of the secrecy that the president owes major amounts of money. things that involve his personal interest. his future. his ego. his children's well being to foreign powers that might be affecting our security, our livelihood in america and we don't even know who he owes. >> we have no idea who he owes mon...

If you look in about a year, it has gone from -- they should be legalized, 74% of the countries that legalize. now, it is 83%. steve, what is going on? >> look, we are a country of immigrants and we love immigration. it has to be in illegally, done by the rules.it on the son of an immigrant. so is president trump. we cannot conflate illegal immigration illegal immigration. there is no comparison. i think the people who should be most offended by illegal immigration are legal immigrants. it is a difficult process. it's expensive, it's time-consuming. >> the reality is that illegals are here bec...

Brought in? don jr. only released four pages of e-mails yesterday, presumably there may be others, pamela brown was just talking about possibly there being a phone conversation at the potential was there for a phone conversation, and that opens up the possibility of phone records, and we know that on air force one and these off the record, now on the record comments from the president, he sounded receptive to the idea of his son testifying, how much disclosure do you need to see to be satisfied by donald trump jr. in all of this? >> we need to see everything they have with respect to any kind ...

The meeting went exactly the way trump junior and others say it did, but the point was to probe to find out, would they be interested, and that this is exactly how russia would do this. they would do it through an oligar oligarch, through a family friend. what are your sources saying today? >> the cut-out model is the way russia operates. if they're going to offer you something like this, they'll not send someone in a kgb uniform. many of the meetings we've been reporting on that have taken place between trump aides and russians were not official russian intelligence officials, right? these we...

Some lawyer came over and wanted to set m up a meeting. it was under the pretext of dirt on hillary. she didn't have it. and they said "all right, later." it was set up by a democratic firm connected to the russian dossier. that t could be a set up. we don't even know that. jared and paul manafort did volunteer thist. contact. when they were asked about it, it was volunteered. i will tell you some other things, you know what else is more sketchy? hillary accepting and soliciting million dollar checks from saudi tycoons. and bill clinton being paid half a million dollars by the kremlin bank at ...