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why was he in st. louis? and how did he get grabbed from what should be a secure area? >> those are all good questions. he was in st. louis because he's on a transplant list for a heart defect. he suffers from a hardening and thickening of heart muscles. we're told by family members that he's got a leaky valve, too. he was admitted into the hospital in st. louis on friday because he had fluid in his lungs, hence his presence at barnes hot. his father then visited several days later, i believe it was on monday when he made a visit to the hospital. that is not confirmed, but it was sev...

Advice. >> jason, what's the difference in relationships? when you're in there, is it important that you are different from the guards, that you can develop your own rapport? >> absolutely. if we're there to investigate a crime, you know, we're the, as the inmates will say, we're the police. they know that we can affect them outside the prison, beyond the administrative elements. we can affect their freedom. you know, they're already incarcerated. but they may look at more time, additional sentences, those type things. so they know that. we don't have to tell them. they know where we're coming...

>> absolutely. if we're there to investigate a crime, you know, we're the, as the inmates will say, we're the police. they know that we can affect them outside the prison, beyond the administrative elements. we can affect their freedom. you know, they're already incarcerated. but they may look at more time, additional sentences, those type things. so they know that. we don't have to tell them. they know where we're coming from. but bottom line is we want to obtain the truth. and oftentimes, you know, there is always two sides to every story. and so we're there to allow these people to tell the...