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Though? >> well, i'm not a big believer in court sentences, especially in situations like this. >> lots of time to think in prison about things like that. but also about charlie. >> oh. young charlie. he -- what i did to charlie is -- haunts me every day. >> yeah. >> you know, i took so much from him. >> but whether nick knew it or not, charlie was in the very capable hands of his uncle mark, who'd received a commission from his worried sister lynn before she was murdered. >> if anything happens to me, take care of my son. >> and he did. how do you feel about that boy? >> love him. yeah. this ...

Pending separation lisa worried about lynn and charlie's safety. >> i wanted her to move out of the home with charlie. she wouldn't do it. she wouldn't leave her home. she wouldn't disrupt charlie. he was just starting high school. they'd lived in the neighborhood forever. so she was a sitting target. >> did she understand that it was dangerous for her? >> yes. yes. >> and yet she went and did it anyway. >> that's how important getting out of that relationship was to her. she was willing to risk her life, and she told me that. >> lisa told lynn she should at least get a restraining order again...

>> and charlie still could not believe what he was hearing. >> it really didn't set in really until i actually saw the house and then it really just all came crashing down. >> his home was a crime scene. >> the house was taped off and there's people going in and out of the house. a lot of neighbors around. like everything you see on tv. >> you never think it's going to be you. >> oh, no. no, no, no. it's surreal. very much so. >> what does that loss feel like? >> yeah. i can't put it into words. it was tremendous. it was awful. i immediately called mark and then -- i'm babbling on the phone. i...

The police now firmly believed that fred schockner ordered and paid for his own wife's murder. as charlie's uncle mark said -- >> never in my wildest dreams even after she was killed because the circumstances -- nothing pointed at fred. and the police did not point at fred. >> they had their reasons. >> we used them in a lot of respects, and you feel guilty because they're beating their chests and they're upset and they had no idea that the father of charlie is the one that set the whole thing up. >> well, remember maybe some idea. >> i always had nigh suspicions. >> in spite of the fact it wa...

And if they had thought that, that they would already have looked into it and not to worry about that. >> reporter: is that what detectives really believed? well, no. >> we had to sit there and look at him in the eye and say, we'll catch everybody who was involved. >> reporter: but not say we suspect him? >> exactly. >> reporter: they believed they simply couldn't tell charlie or the rest of the family what they were discovering. afraid that fred would find out and stop talking to them. so charlie stayed at home with his father. his uncle mark was allowed, even encouraged, to believe that fred...