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Argument, which is this libertarian clap trap. this is about freedom. if they really believe it then, then they should be arguing for getting rid of all background checks and for getting rid of medicare and medicaid and social security. but, you know, it's really kind of a bait and switch on a rhetorical level. >> by the way, ronald reagan, who i don't dislike the way some people do, but joy, this is so interesting. ronald reagan gave up with his most compelling speeches against the encroachment of big government right before they passed medicare in the early '60s under johnson and he was basi...

But says suggestions that progressivism may be dead are greatly exaggerated. >> the progressive movement is about immigration reform. it's about making investment in our kids so they can compete in a global and technology world. it's about adjusting to climate change. that's what i think the progressive movement is about. for 100 years, american liberals have been lusting to create a truly nationalized health care system. >> charles kessler is the author of a book on president obama and his place in the progressive movement. >> under johnson they created medicare and medicaid. that was far fro...