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Care act faced last year made aetna decide they should pull out. we can address this, but we have to do it in bipartisan way, wolf. >> the president tweeted this yesterday about health care. republican senators are working very hard to get there with no help from the democrats. not easy! perhaps just let obamacare crash and burn. a lot of democrats worry that the president, and you just suggested it, that his policies and executive orders will literally sabotage what's left of obamacare unless congress is able to pass a significant replacement bill. i assume you share that concern? >> wolf, my...

Between both political parties going back to obamacare and to the point we are right now. mitch mcconnell basically laid down a marker for his own republicans saying, if we don't get all our republicans on board, then that's it. it's interesting when you hear the republican criticism of saying democrats are not working with us. mitch mcconnell ju, what he sai right, absolves democrats of trying to get something passed. when president trump heard the concerns of the senators, because everything we're hearing is that president trump doesn't really get involved in the policy aspects of this at al...

Tax cuts and long-term reductions in medicaid as a vehicle for this conversation. >> so what do you think -- be specific. where can the democrats and the republicans agree? because you know there is a lot of problems with obamacare. you just mentioned it. we learned in the last week or two that aetna, one of the major insurers, is leaving your state of delaware next year. they don't want to be part of this obamacare exchange anymore. >> that's right, and part of the reason they were leaving fwas te reliable lack of reinsurance. there is a bill that senator tim kaine has introduced that would p...

Passed version earlier this year, but i'll give you an example from my home state of south dakota. we have over 30,000 people that will have access to refundable tax credit to buy insurance that don't have it under obamacare. that's because we allow the tax credit people to buy it from 100% to 350% of the poverty level. that opens up my state to 33,000 people. the people are going to look at it differently. overall, what we are trying to do is stabilize the market, which this does and there's a slight spike in premiums. then the cbo said in 2020, they come down 30%. in 2026, they come down 20%...

Some will have it, because that medicaid enrolled. whatever the reason is -- this is the central problem in here. when the aca says, we will pay medicaid expansion 100%, a lot of the states, red states, said we will do it. they were warned not to do it, it was a trap, now they find themselves in a tough predicament when they need a federal monday that they don't trust anything else. >> julie: this senate bill basically finds him according to the cbo, 22 million lose insurance. that paint the picture? let's talk about medicaid spending. that is something again that yes he widely reported. today...