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Transcripts of interviews they had done with irs employees, dan. this is mr. cummings trying to rebut that. we have conducted other interviews including this one which is a guy he described as republican. this is how the q and a went according to mr. cummings. question do you have reason to believe anyone in the white house was involved in the decision to screen tea party caves? answer, i have no reason to believe that question did you decide to elevate the case to your direct supervisor because you disagreed with the political views of the tea party organization identified in this one particu...

If somebody is not trying to protect themselves against criminal liability, they would tell the truth and say exactly what they did. if they weren't ashamed of what they did, if they knew what they were doing wasn't wrong, why would you need the protection of the fifth amendment. now, here is another thing. now we see the democratic minority saying that there is no need to go further. we have the republicans who believe it should go further. now is the perfect time for a special prosecutor to come in, who is totally independent. to get to the bottom of this. let the chips fall where they may, ...

Think mr. cummings is suddenly so -- is it because they think there is some there there. >> this is typical washington behavior. they want to make candle go away. rather than welcoming robust debate about what the real issue is. >> let's get to the bottom of it of what happened to holly paz? holly who? we don't get to know. they just like disappear. okay problem -- anyway, all right. boy the wafs, did you know that the person running the irs cincinnati office is only 12? she looks very young in her photo. all right, guys. thank you. >> thanks. >> megyn: we are watching live right now as the ju...

Environmental groups who don't like what a lot of these farmers are doing. now they are saying this may pose an actual biosecurity threat. michelle imagine kin is next to explain why the agency did it and what it is doing to fix it. wait until you hear about the fix. plus, one of the irs managers caught up in the scandal of targeting conservative groups has suddenly been replaced. remember, we telling you about this woman. this is the woman they had sit in on all the interviews of the underling irs employees. when we talked to the inspector general congress did said why would you do that? why ...

Holly paz is now gone. we don't know -- i mean national review online reported that she is a barack obama donor. we know she was in on all these meetings. they don't tell us what does that mean gone? why can't we know about the accountability and whether it's related? why do we have to suppose and wonder? mike, thank you. well with, over the weekend the top democrat on the house oversight committee disputed claims that the irs scandal was connected to washington. maryland congressman elijah cummings irs workers in cincinnati were the ones who initiated the targeting of conservative gruption. h...