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Not entirely sure all of the events that will take place, if we do default. >> yes, well, the credit score that you're referencing is back from 2011, but when we're talking about what we're facing right now, financial markets are looking at this closely, which has to do with the u.s. government debt which is the underpinning of not only the u.s. government system but the global financial system as well. for what it's worth, what is an open question, if we pass that june 5th date which by the way is an estimate, it could be later than that, it could be earlier than that, it has to do with a lot...

Chicken and egg situation you're describing, because of the confidence, the money, how do you get something like this off the ground? and we are meant to be thinking about operating in this way, and electric cars are the things we are all meant to be thinking about and buying and driving. are there other countries that are just doing this so much better than us? are there places we can learn lessons from? yes. better than us? are there places we can learn lessons from?— can learn lessons from? yes, the european — can learn lessons from? yes, the european union _ can learn lessons from? yes...

Have ideal scenario here. obviously they prefer to still have the majority, still have the speakership, but you know they have the white house, they have the senate, and i have a completely dysfunctional opposition at a time where it seems, i mean if you are hakeem jeffries, someone to be in the minority because you have -- you know you the fall to the other side, but also there's a lot of the tension that was sort of built up around the pelosi leadership over many many years, it's public release to some degree. i think a lot of the also generational things -- the release is probably a little ...

Seems, i mean if you are hakeem jeffries, someone to be in the minority because you have -- you know you the fall to the other side, but also there's a lot of the tension that was sort of built up around the pelosi leadership over many many years, it's public release to some degree. i think a lot of the also generational things -- the release is probably a little bit at hand lately. i don't know, i think it is really -- in some ways this is all very predictable, right? the republican party just giving itself to trump has basically reduced any sort of hint of a spine or any kind of governing un...

Wing, he has been giving them everything that they want, and if you go to kevin mccarthy's twitter page, and the pinned tweet that he wants everybody to see -- hold on. let's see this. the pinned tweet is about hunter biden and he is all in on this maga business and now jim jordan is going to say something, and he has six votes, and maybe he can ask for those six individuals to vote for kevin mccarthy. that is still only going to get mccarthy up to 209 which is going to tie his losing score when nancy pelosi became speaker, and at any point, let me throw it to anderson. and we are learning how...