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Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs Hale's Travel to Lebanon

Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs Hale's Travel to Lebanon
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Bringing Stability to the Sahel

Bringing Stability to the Sahel
April 04, 2021
FILE - A girl balances a bowl of food on her head at an Internally Displaced People's (IDP) camp in Faladie, where hundreds have found refuge after fleeing inter-communal violence in central Mali, May 14, 2019.
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The United States is working with the Sahel region of Africa - an ecological belt that stretches from the Atlantic coast of Senegal in the west to the shores of the Red Sea in Sudan. It also often refers to five West African states comprising the so-called “G5-Sahel,” including Burkina Faso, Chad, Mali, Mauritania, and Niger.

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The Lead With Jake Tapper-20191212-21:33:00

were ukrainians killed when they received their previous aid. there were ukrainians who were killed in this before. this is the most despicable, despicable of drive-byes, to say that this many -- undersecretary hale has told you over and over -- you talk about evidence. read the transcript. he said this was perspective money, not current money. yet we keep putting it in the record because if you tell the story enough times, somebody out there is going to believe it. that's despicable for these 13 who have lost their lives in ukraine and despicable for anyone who fought for this country. don't keep doing it. if they do, call them out on it. we're going to call facts facts here. there's no crime. you know why? it's interesting. my friends from california just said where are they on these different things? where are the democrats? my question is, where are your crimes?

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Erin Burnett OutFront-20191121-00:02:00

ukraine? >> this administration. >> and not the obama administration? >> that is correct. >> have you spoken to the president about ukraine aid? >> no, i have not. >> no, ma'am. >> undersecretary hale, you testified that you had no direct knowledge of nefarious motivation to withhold aid to ukraine, correct? >> correct. >> and to your knowledge you testified that there were no strings attached to the aid, correct? that's page 184 of your deposition. >> i had no such knowledge. >> more specifically, you testified that you had no knowledge of ukraine aid being held up for investigations. >> is that correct? >> correct. >> during the temporary hold of security assistance and this is until ambassador taylor, and you have not heard the words burisma or biden, correct? >> in the context of which we're discussing. you testified to that on page 86

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Erin Burnett OutFront-20191121-00:07:00

>> no, sir. >> ambassador hale, did he ever call you to ask about an update on ukraine corruption? >> no, sir. >> to your knowledge, did he ever call your boss, secretary pompeo? >> i don't know. >> ms. cooper, did he ever call the many bosses that you've had at the department of defense? >> the acting secretaries? >> i don't know, sir. >> now as to the justification. the justification is that the obama administration only provided blankets so the ukrainians should be grateful even after being shaken down that the trump administration provided more, but the truth, ms. cooper is that under the obama administration and the european reassurance initiative, $175 million were provided from u.s. taxpayer dollars to the ukrainian, is that right? >> sir, i don't have that figure. the figure that we typically use is to say we've provided $1.6 billion to date, but i don't have the breakdown in front of me. >> and the obama administration

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Erin Burnett OutFront-20191121-00:10:00

investigation despite the president's continued obstruction. i yield back. >> mr. herd? >> thank you, chairman. >> ambassador hale, you're, in essence, the number three guy at the state department, is that correct? >> correct. >> represent roughly 70,000 folks. >> >> i wouldn't say i represent them. i'm one of them, yes. >> were you part of a pretty fantastic workforce that i've been proud to be able to serve alongside. we shared time together in pakistan, and so thank them. i know they oftentimes don't get the pats on the back or the accolades what they do for the national security and there are some of us who do recognize that and appreciate that. did anybody raise issues to you, ambassador hale about investigations the bidens for

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Erin Burnett OutFront-20191121-00:08:00

also trained five military battalions of the ukraine, is that correct? >> again. i don't have the figures in front of me, but y the training began in the obama administration and we did train many forcees. >> and under the obama administration founded ukrainian security assistance initiative provided to the ukrainians were armored humvees, tactical drones, night vision devices, armored vests and medical equipment, is that correct? >> those all sound like pieces of equipment that were provided in the obama administration to my recollection. >> you would agree that's a lot more than blankets, right? >> yes, sir. >> ambassador hale, the aid that was withheld to lebanon and pakistan, those were for legitimate foreign policy objectives, is that right? >> i would say that's true. the assistance to pakistan and i would not have a current hold on the lebanese program. >> and you would agree that

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Erin Burnett OutFront-20191121-00:30:00

released and way this thing played out is, it eem seems to me as logical as you can do it, but if you put it on the broader framework, and his deep-rooted issue on the corruption in ukraine and the experience he had with high-ranking ukrainian officials criticizing him and supporting secretary clinton in the 2016 election. you put all of that together and i think it shows why it played out the way it did. with that, i would yield back, mr. chairman. >> mr. welch? >> thank you, mr. chairman. undersecretary hale, i want to go back to your support and affirmation of ambassador yovanovitch. what i understand, and by the way, thank you for that. our military, no soldier on the battlefield and those who are in

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Erin Burnett OutFront-20191121-00:38:00

it would strike her as too political. is that consistent with the approach you might take? >> i think that sounds sensible. yes. >> i yield the remaining time to the chairman. thank you both for being here. >> miss demings. >> ambassador hale, ms. cooper, thank you both for being with us. just a quick question before i get into some questions about ambassador sondland who we heard from today. i want to ask both of you if president trump withheld critical military aid from ukraine because high-ranking officials supported the president's political opponent, would you consider that an official, acceptable, appropriate action by the president of the united states? ambassador hale? >> that's not what i would

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Erin Burnett OutFront-20191121-00:31:00

leadership positions in the state department and our intelligence community have that bond of loyalty to each other and it's very reassuring that you represent that. you first, as i understand it, got information early in march and by early march secretary pompeo had mentioned that some time in the fall you received a letter from the former member of congress with complaints about the ambassador, correct? and that member of congress was -- >> congressman sessions. >> and did you see that there was any basis to the claims of disloyalty? >> no, i did not nor did the secretary of state. >> you rzed kiev avisited kiev discussed her remaining at her post. >> it was a personal idea. yes. >> an indication that you valued her continued service there. >> and you also stated to the

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