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War crimes cases because there's a strong feeling in the top levels of the u.s. military that the chain of command, that military justice must remain apolitical. that is free from political influence by anybody that the military must look after its own discipline. the fired navy secretary richard spencer really honed in on one of the points that we continue to hear about the president's intervention writing in "the washington post" about all of that and calling it -- and let me just read it to everybody, shocking and unprecedented. it was also a reminder that the president has very little unde...

The case is only part of his concern. he writes in part in "the washington post" this was a shocking and unprecedented intervention at a low-level review. it was also a reminder that the president has very little understanding of what it means to be in the military, to fight ethically or to be governed by a uniform set of rules and practices. our allies need to know that we remain a force for good, and to please bear with us as we move through this moment in time. let's bring in the president's former deputy assistant for reaction. thank you, fred, for joining us. >> good to be here. happy tha...

We have some breaking news to bring you. richard spencer writing a washington post-op-ed just days after resigning over the president's handling of the case of a war crimes. it was also a reminder that the president has very little understanding of what it means to be in the military to fight ethically or to be governed by a uniform set of rules and practices. out front now, republican congressman mike johnson of louisiana. he's a member of the house judiciary commit ptee. congressman, thanks so much for joining us. >> hey. thanks for having me. >> let me get your reaction of this. a former na...

President has very little understanding of what it means to be in the military to fight ethically or to be governed by a uniform set of rules and practices. joining me for his take, rear admiral kirby during the obama administration. admiral, great to have you with us. it this is a scathing rebuke of the a president on top of a scathing rebuke of the president on top of another scathing rebuke on the president. this puts it in bigger terms, in really national security terms. what do you make of it? >> he's certainly not going quietly. he's trying i think in this op-ed to frame it in a larger...

Be governed by a uniform set of rules and practices." >> i don't think he understands the full definition of a war fighter, the war fighter is a profession of arms, it has standards if they have to be held to and they hold themselves to. >> gallagher who deployed eight times with the seals to intense combat zones was charged with multiple war crimes including murder but acquitted after the navy prosecution bungled the case in july. president trump pardon two soldiers and two separate war crimes cases ordered he retain his trident. >> you can get away with things, we have to have good order and...