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14. where does that stand? >> well, i think they have given up on quite a few of them and are focusing on just three of them right now. those are against senator dave hansen up in green bay, very good guy, comes from a union background, state senator wurch down in kenosha, again, very good salt of the earth guy they're going after and then state senator halpern up in the north woods. they're going after them. i think they're focusing on them just because they don't want to be on defense defending their eight republicans. if they're on defense the entire time they'll lose. >> in the wake of thi...

Up on quite a few of them and are focusing on just three of them right now. those are against senator dave hansen up in green bay, very good guy, comes from a union background, state senator wurch down in kenosha, again, very good salt of the earth guy they're going after and then state senator halpern up in the north woods. they're going after them. i think they're focusing on them just because they don't want to be on defense defending their eight republicans. if they're on defense the entire time they'll lose. >> in the wake of this, where is the enthusiasm? >> it is very interesting, ed. i...

Sustainable wage is given, they can take care of themself and the community. >> again, you said a working folk are the poor folk but they're working. talk about the pastor leading the charge against wal-mart coming. a union background, is that right? >> i'm not sure but the reality is that that's the part that's also disconcerting. folks are trying to make it a union wal-mart. it's about the community, about churches, it's about neighborhoods. it is not just wal-mart against the union. union folks are in churches, they're folk in the community. it's not just -- and most of the unions you know,...