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Close children's detention center that hold one youth, that would save about $300,000 a year. that is kind of fiscal irresponsibility that these union rules have a tendency to perpetuate in which american loathe. >> i think you are absolutely right there are excesses and grave excesses given the current collective bargaining agreements and implications. the problem is the american people by and large respect unions, right to organize and bargain collectively even in the public sector but they are coming to see that the excesses that people are demonstrate go for is right or reasonable or respo...

Of his first acts. he did it by the stroke of his pen when he executed an executive order. we didn't have 12 days of demonstrations on the capital. he did it because indiana finds itself in the same position as many states, on the verge of bankruptcy. when the public employees is paid almost in excess both in salary and benefits, people that pay their salaries there is something that is terribly wrong. it's hard to be a statesman and i think governor walk they are wisconsin is being a statesman because he is doing the right thing by all the people of his state. >> these union rules are not jus...

>> and we spoke just a little while ago with a republican governor john kasich. he totally rejects the idea that this bill is union busting. he says it's absolutely necessary to dig this state out of an 8 billion-dollar budget hole. >> if we get that done, we balance our budget, 8 billion in the hole, without a tax increase, and we have cut taxes on income taxes, that's going to send a message to the rest of the country that if they can do it there, they can do it in their state and then maybe, guess what, they might actually be able to do something like this in washington. we at least hope so...

Building mercedes. >> right. >> this is happening in south carolina with bmws, airbus in south carolina. >> it's true. >> and so i asked these southern governors, why are they going down there instead of the places where they've got the top ten universities on the planet. >> right. >> and they say balls of tax structure and union rules. >> right, right. >> how do you, as a pro-union person, go to the unions in the northeast and say, see? we've got to reopened these factori factories, guys. >> what i find is, i've talked to guys like jeff immelt who is creating manufacturing jobs in upstate new...

Mayor took over and she is gone but, now, is this according to union rules that in comes the arbitrator and rehires the people? union rules have done this, correct? >> well the arbitrator was mutually chosen by the washington, dc public schools and by the union. >> is it true to say that washington, dc public schools have gone back to the old ways now that michelle rhee is gone? >> i am not sure that is fair to say. there is a lot to see in times ahead. we have seen some reversals of some reform on the lower level, principals taken out of schools she brought if but time will tell as far as how...