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The nation. >> you make an argument that it is the lowest in the nation based upon the test scores. now, i would say that ours can get better but i would say that ours are -- >> your predecessors the unions have been saying that for years. >> the unions have a advocated for high quality ed glace but not achieving it. >> our test scores are not what we choose to focus on. we choose to focus on teaching kids. >> how do you know if they are learning anything if you don't test them and compare. >> i know my kids are learning when i look in their eyes. >> the protesters had celebrity is support. ac...

Kids. >> but how do you know if they are learning anything if you don't test them and compare. >> i know my kids are learning when i look in their eyes. >> the protesters had celebrity you support. actor matt damon. he was asked by a come from reason tv about the rules that make it hard to fire a union teach. in acting there isn't job security, right. why isn't it like that for teachers. >> do you think job insecurity is what makes me work hard. i want to be an actor are. that is not the thing. you you take this mba style thinking, right. >> business school ideays. well, yes. charter schools...

>> there is profit motive behind all of this extra testing. >> we need to get the corporations out of the schools. >> the union says school of choice would enrich corporations but further immoverrish teachers. ♪ >> teachers paid enough? >> no. >> you have some teachers making over a hundred thousand dollars a year. >> and they aren't making enough. >> matt damon agrees with that. his mom is a union teach. a teacher wants to teach. why else would you take a [ bleep ] salary and really long hours. >> teachers make a [ bleep ] salary. well, maybe to matt day mop but today american teachers ma...