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What are your thoughts? >> it's just not credible to suggest that he didn't have that information. if he didn't have that information, it's because he willfully chose not to get that information. but that is the standard kind of information that his advisers would have provided in a briefing, because they decided to move forward with this plan. so, it's not clear, was he not listening, was he not in the room, was there considerable planning going on without him? all of those are not great scenarios in terms of his leadership and his critical thinking. but more likely, this is part of the theat...

After humans first set foot on the moon. >> that's one small step for man. >> reporter: -- nasa is planning to go back, this time to stay. >> we're going to prove how to live and work on another world. and take all of that knowledge to mars. that's the goal. >> reporter: dubbed artemis for apollo's twin sister, nasa plans to send a woman this time. the agency planned a lunar landing for 2028, but in march, the trump administration moved it up by four year. were you blind sided by the new time line? >> not at all. we have opportunity to do this. a lot of things have to go right. i'm not saying ...