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All In With Chris Hayes

and we nearly. typically when you get this or somebody in the deputy attorney generals office who signed off on it. i bet in this case that authorization probably went a little bit higher. what it means is you go back to the possibly a defendant more likely a witness whose testimony you like you would like, and we say we just granted you use immunity, that means you can't be prosecuted based in your testimony or any evidence we derive from it. oh and by the way you no longer have a fifth amendment privilege to assert, so you're gonna have to answer the questions truthfully. up to this point everything was great for the witness, they are off the hook. but here's the kicker. if they answer any questions untruthfully, they can be prosecuted for perjury. so the only thing that serves them here is the truth. >> okay, so the idea here is that you don't want to talk and have a fifth amendment right not to. fifth amendment right protects you from incriminating yourself in some fashion. we will take away that specter

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All In With Chris Hayes

gonna have to answer the questions truthfully. up to this point everything was great for the witness, they are off the hook. but here's the kicker. if they answer any questions untruthfully, they can be prosecuted for perjury. so the only thing that serves them here is the truth. >> okay, so the idea here is that you don't want to talk and have a fifth amendment right not to. fifth amendment right protects you from incriminating yourself in some fashion. we will take away that specter by offering you immunity, for you now have to talk basically? >> that's exactly right. >> okay, so why is patel seemingly so significant they would go to this? seems to be fairly extraordinarily, that don't think this is that routine to make sure that he testifies truthfully in front of a grand jury? >> i have done this a timer two when a witnesses testimony was perceived as being very essential. here it seems likely that doj has other ways of establishing

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Don Lemon Tonight

world. they have reminded me, a few times, that trump does read transcripts. just to keep that in mind as i proceed through my interviews with the committee. i think most americans know, attempting to influence witnesses, to testify, untruthfully, presidents very serious concerns. >> the language, there michael, about being a team player and protecting who need to be protected. you know both sides of that equation. >> i do. it's part of the trump playbook. i know the pressure campaign. i was involved in the creation of the playbook. what is interesting, on this april 21 email, from bob costello, is he said, there was never a doubt, and they are in our corner. rudy sent this communication channel must be maintained. he called it, crucial, noting how reassured they were that they had someone, like me, who rudy has known for so many years, in this role. sleep well tonight, you have

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The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle

white house aide cassidy hutchinson, she recently fired a lawyer recommended to her by one of trump's former aides. he was paid for by his political action committee. hutchinson hired her new lawyer before her last interview with the committee. at the end of today's hearing, the committee vice chair liz cheney suggested the possibility of witness tampering. >> this is a call received by one of our witnesses. quote, a person let me know you have your deposition tomorrow. he wants me to let you know that he is thinking about you. he knows you are loyal, and you are going to do the right thing when you go in for your deposition. i think most americans know that attempting to influence witnesses to testify untruthfully, presents very serious concerns. >> and today, she told abc news federal prosecutors may be paying close attention.

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The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle

party covering the legal fees for a witness. it says, the issue came under increased scrutiny following the testimony of former trump white house aide cassidy hutchinson, she recently fired a lawyer recommended to her by one of trump's former aides. he was paid for by his political action committee. hutchinson hired her new lawyer before her last interview with the committee. at the end of tuesday's hearing, the committee vice chair liz cheney suggested the possibility of witness tampering. >> this is a call received by one of our witnesses. quote, a person let me know you have your deposition tomorrow. he wants me to let you know that he is thinking about you. he knows you are loyal, and you are going to do the right thing when you go in for your deposition. i think most americans know that attempting to influence witnesses to testify untruthfully, presents very serious concerns.

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The January 6th Hearings The House Investigates

this is a call, received by one of our witnesses, quote, a person let me know, you have your deposition tomorrow. he wants me to let you know, he's thinking about you. he knows you are loyal, and you are going to do the right thing when you go in for your deposition. i think that most americans know, attempting to influence witnesses to testify, untruthfully, presents very serious concerns. we will discuss these issues is the committee, carefully considering our next steps. >> most of what i know about witness intimidation, i know from the roger stone felony trial, where he was convicted on almost all counts, and then later, pardoned by president trump. but, what liz cheney is describing here, at this evidence that she's bringing forward, from witnesses have come forward from the committee, talking about how they have been intimidated, and pressured, by people close to president trump, or at least, on his behalf, sounds like the kind of

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The 11th Hour With Stephanie Ruhle

loyal to donald to a fault, because it's one way street. he feels no compassion public be -- people who smoke, who think that the only ones who are gonna get cancer, is just incredible and i really think that people like meadows and giuliani are so addicted to power that they think it's gonna protect them, somehow. >> mary trump, thank you very much for joining us, we always appreciate it. >> thank you, lawrence. >> david cay johnston and tim o'brien know that donald trump's history of intimidating witnesses. they will join us next. >> i think most americans know that intending to influence witnesses to testify untruthfully, presidents very serious concerns. serious concerns applebee's late night. because half off is just more fun. now that's eatin' good

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The January 6th Hearings The House Investigates

person let me know, you have your deposition tomorrow. he wants me to let you know, he's thinking about you. he knows you are loyal, and you are going to do the right thing when you go in for your deposition. i think that most americans know, attempting to influence witnesses to testify, untruthfully, presents very serious concerns. we will discuss these issues as a committee, carefully considering our next steps. >> most of what i know about witness intimidation, i know from the roger stone felony trial, where he was convicted on almost all counts, and then later, pardoned by president trump. but, what liz cheney is describing here, at this evidence that she's bringing forward, from witnesses have come forward from the committee, talking about how they have been intimidated, and pressured, by people close to president trump, or at least, on his behalf, sounds like the kind of

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The January 6th Hearings The House Investigates

>> mary trump, thank you very much for joining us, we always appreciate it. >> thank you, lawrence. >> david cay johnston and tim o'brien know that donald trump's history of intimidating witnesses. they will join us next. >> i think most americans know that intending to influence witnesses to testify untruthfully, presidents very serious concerns.

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