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Delegitimize the election process, cause mayhem, trouble whatever. have influence. we believe responsible for hacks. not the person you want to be chummy with but in addition real geopolitical politics. primarily right now concerned about syria and whether or not the russians are behaving responsibly, helping to defeat isis or prop up assad. that's a concern for us because we have interests there and trump is saying he's going to commit some sort of resources, maybe bodies or not. these are real issues and questions. and what russia is doing to its neighbors is also a real problem and question...

Claimed or at least the fbi believes may have been directly involved in recruiting isis. >> colonel jacobs, when we look at what it will take in terms of the coalition, which we have discussed a number of times, ambassador ginsburg bringing up the need for some of the arab nations in the region, but when it comes to players like russia, it is, in many ways, a strange bedfellow. they do not have the same goals as the united states and france do. how do you align the two? >> well, russia, first of all, has an interest, not necessarily in propping up assad, but only probl propping up assad until ...

Some of your opponents note that back in 2013 when bashar al assad, the syrian dictator used chemical weapons, crossed the red line and used chemical weapons against his own people, that you voted against the use of force allowing president obama to use force against assad. why is that, sir? >> well, first of all, i don't support air strikes against assad now. no one is calling for those either. i thought, number one, it would be counterproductive, especially when the president was describing the way the strikes should be. we shouldn't take military action to send a message. you should only ta...

In opposite to assad. but this morning's revelation, the russian announcement, that they're convinced their airliner was brought down by a bomb, that may change their minds about whether or not they're going to focus on isis or just focus on propping up assad. indeed it makes an opportunity for the united states and russia and perhaps even iran to work in concert to get rid of isis to focus on them, although it's going to require the united states to stop talking about dumping assad and maybe take the russian line that says he's gone but not until we square away the security situation inside s...

Not about isis. they are about transitioning and getting assad out. as long as assad's in power, i think the strategic mistake the russians made, they can't prop up assad and fight isis at the same time. assad and isis are evil twins. assad brought isis into being by being so brutal against his mostly sunni population. we have got to get assad out and then turn the attention and here's where we and the iranians and the russians have a similar interest, of taking care of isis. but i also think you're right, some indication of military intentions will help in vienna because it strengthens our ha...