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Refrigerator, for example? and how did it land? we did have the weapon in our jury room. and some of the men tried to, you know, get a feel for how it loaded up. it takes a lot of strength to load that. >> but as they looked at the evidence -- >> and how the arrow that killed the woman, it went in straight. >> as they re-read ken creamer's testimony, his memory of the careless toss, the bag hitting the fridge, the loaded crossbow going off -- >> it physically was not possible. the physics of it disallowed it. >> then there was the neighbor, randall howes, whose memory suggested creamer staged ...

>> it's great. it's remarkable to see the sophisticated technology, cost $70,000, next to a shopping cart in the same room. what does a shopping cart -- what does that type of therapy do for somebody? >> do you go shopping? so when you're with a shopping cart, you lean forward or do you stand more upright? >> i try and stand upright. >> yeah. and i think that's what happens. as opposed to training with the walker. many people weak to begin with, have a tendency to depend on the walker. with the shopping cart there, is no way to lean forward. >> this is pretty labor intensive. >> absolutely. >>...

Than normal. he was very hunched over. so i think i'm seeing a difference in terms of how he is holding his body. his body is more upright. the funny thing when he said president, he stuck out his tongue. >> bill: he doesn't like president obama. here is the interesting thing. president bush likes president obama personally. but i think cheney, he has no use for him. >> he shrugs his shoulders. think he is going to be one term president and he shrugs his shoulders almost saying i hope he is one-term president. >> bill: and debate about pima county sheriff dupnik in arizona what he did and how ...

Looks frailer. he does tend to hold his head up higher than normal. he was usually very hunched over. i'm seeing a difference in terms of how he is holding his body. his body a s. a little more upright. in addition the funny thing i noticed was when he said the word president, he stuck out his tongue. so that's one of the things we look for. >> bill: he doesn't like president obama. there is no doubt about it? >> he is not typically a tongue thruster. >> bill: president bush likes president obama personally. >> yeah. >> bill: cheney doesn't have any use for him. >> he shrugged his shoulders at...

Looks frailer. he does tend to hold his head up higher than normal. he was usually very hunched over. i'm seeing a difference in terms of how he is holding his body. his body a s. a little more upright. in addition the funny thing i noticed was when he said the word president, he stuck out his tongue. so that's one of the things we look for. >> bill: he doesn't like president obama. there is no doubt about it? >> he is not typically a tongue thruster. >> bill: president bush likes president obama personally. >> yeah. >> bill: cheney doesn't have any use for him. >> he shrugged his shoulders at...