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Actually in the executive order, the sort of bullying aspect of just releasing a bunch of executive orders and then dealing with the fall out afterwards, that's what's really going to be tested here. and this will be the first test. the pushback will come from lawmakers. it will come from the human rights community. it kwill come from lawyers representing the affected people and it will come from countries all over the world who see this as sort of an arbitrary assault on bilateral relations. the other point is george w. bush made a very strong effort to impart on us that we need the muslim wo...

>> this order is unconstitutional. it is wreaking havoc on the lives of refugees who are trying to reunite with their families and their loved ones, so we filed this emergency legal motion to prevent the u.s. government from sending back our clients and individuals like them, back into the dangerous that they fled from. they're being persecuted. they're coming to the united states with a valid status. these are individuals who are supposed to be in the united states to be protected because they were persecuted and now they're being detained unlawfully. so we are doing everything we can to rere...

Foreign nationaled nationals wh exploit united states immigration laws for ma lef lent purposes. how do you see the implementation of this executive order being complicated? >> when you cast a wide net, you pull up a lot of things you don't want. i think that's what we are seeing today with these iraqis at jfc. they've already been vetted. they've already gone through the process. i understand what mr. trump is trying to do. he's trying to reset out refugees are let into the country. that's fine. but let's reward the people that have served this country. this is going to have a very chilling e...