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Workers, they are no doubt about it. >> at this point, i know kasich the governor of ohio on last night. they make excellent points, they say, look, we don't have any more money, okay? we can't do this anymore. public service unions are going to hold us hostage teachers, firefighters, this and that and a lot of the states are exempting wisconsin firefighters and cops are exempted from all of this. okay. we can't operate. and the towns can't operate anymore. so there it becomes a urgency issue and theory goes flying right out the window. they don't have the money. >> bill, i would say a couple ...

Workers, they are no doubt about it. >> at this point, i know kasich the governor of ohio on last night. they make excellent points, they say, look, we don't have any more money, okay? we can't do this anymore. public service unions are going to hold us hostage teachers, firefighters, this and that and a lot of the states are exempting wisconsin firefighters and cops are exempted from all of this. okay. we can't operate. and the towns can't operate anymore. so there it becomes a urgency issue and theory goes flying right out the window. they don't have the money. >> bill, i would say a couple ...

Workers, they are no doubt about it. >> at this point, i know kasich the governor of ohio on last night. they make excellent points, they say, look, we don't have any more money, okay? we can't do this anymore. public service unions are going to hold us hostage teachers, firefighters, this and that and a lot of the states are exempting wisconsin firefighters and cops are exempted from all of this. okay. we can't operate. and the towns can't operate anymore. so there it becomes a urgency issue and theory goes flying right out the window. they don't have the money. >> bill, i would say a couple ...