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>> it made me feel like they were a permanent part of me. besides -- besides the mere curiosity of what it would be like, it made me file like they were a part of me and it gave me a sexual satisfaction to do that. >> was it the killing that excited you or is it what happened after the killing? >> no, the killing was just a means to an end. that was the least satisfactory part. i didn't enjoy doing that. that's why i tried to create living zombies with uric acid in the drill. but it never worked. no, the killing wasn't the objective. i just wanted to have the person under my complete control, ...

Were a permanent part of me. besides -- besides the mere curiosity of what it would be like, it made me feel like they were a part of me and it gave me a as well satisfaction to do that. >> was it the killing that excited you or is it what happened after the killing? >> no, the killing was just a means to an end. that was the least satisfactory part. i didn't enjoy doing that. that's why i tried to create living zombies with uric acid in the drill. but it never worked. no, the killing wasn't the objective. i just wanted to have the person under my complete control, not having to -- to consider...

Were a permanent part of me. besides -- besides the mere curiosity of what it would be like, it made me feel like i was part of it and it gave me a sexual satisfaction to do that. >> was it the killing that excited you or is it what happened after the killing? >> no, the killing was just a means to an end. that was the least satisfactory part. i didn't enjoy doing that. that's why i tried to create living zombies with uric acid in the drill. but it never worked. no, the killing wasn't the objective. i just wanted to have the person under my complete control, not having to -- to consider their ...

Besides -- besides the mere curiosity of what it would make me feel like it made me feel like they were part of me and it gave me a sexual satisfaction to do that. >> was it the killing that excited you or is it what happened after the killing? >> no, the killing was just a means to an end. that was the least satisfactory part. i didn't enjoy doing that. that's why i tried to create living zombies with uric acid in the drill. but it never worked. no, the killing wasn't the objective. i just wanted to have the person under my complete control, not having to -- to consider their wishes. being ab...

Besides -- besides the mere curiosity of what it would make me feel like it made me feel like i was part of it, and it gave me a sexual satisfaction to do that. >> was it the killing that excited you or is it what happened after the killing? >> no, the killing was just a means to an end. that was the least satisfactory part. i didn't enjoy doing that. that's why i tried to create living zombies with uric acid in the drill. but it never worked. no, the killing wasn't the objective. i just wanted to have the person under my complete control, not having to -- to consider their wishes. being able ...