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Intelligence tracked that all the way. perhaps, all of this the latest wrinkle in the cat and mouse game between the u.s. and russia and a lot of concern that underlying all of this is russian effort to step up their military operations from ukraine to syria and off the coast of the united states. wolf? >> very worrisome developments. let's bring back david risch. >> it's no secret all nations first world countries that track military maneuvers of other nations. barbara said this was done secretly. the russians know they can't do this secretly any more than we can. >> what are they trying to a...

That this is finally coming to pass. again, wolf this is a formality, something that the u.s. parole commission was expected to do in advance of november 21st which is when he completes his 30-year sentence. >> the last time he was eligible for parole the parole board rejected parole at that time. but this time they are saying he will be paroled, he will be out of prison serving exactly 30 years of a life sentence. >> right. >> in november. november 21st. he'll be free to walk out of that prison? >> that's right, wolf. 30 years under the statute, under the law at the time that jonathan pollard...

This is part of the lively debate we talked about. this is good. >> pollard, an american convicted of spying for israel, has served nearly three decades in a u.s. prison and there have been protests in israel this week demanding his release. before his middle east trip, president obama was asked about pollard in an interview with israel's channel 2. >> this is an individual who committed a very serious crime here in the united states. he's been serving his time. i have no plans for, you know, releasing jonathan pollard immediately. but what i am going to be doing is to make sure that he, like ...

Today. we have a variety of briefings here. we're talking to all of our sources but there still is a great deal of confusion. >> all right. well, we want those answers. also joining us live, retired u.s. naval intelligence officer malcolm nance and veteran major general robert scales. welcome. malcolm, i want to start with you. isis-gs, an al qaeda affiliate. this isn't a group i'm familiar with and a lot of other people aren't. do we know about them? >> well, it's a group that a lot of people aren't familiar with principally because they're very small. and to tell you the truth, we didn't thi...

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